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Pedophilia
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| pedophilia is certainly wrong within the context of our society, there is no question about that
however nothing is absolute. our actions, behavior, emotions, even are thoughts are a result of the values and beleifs imparted upon us by society
let me illustrate by a somewhat related example:
children are taught that to appear naked in public is wrong and shameful. therefore, many children have an intense fear of being seen naked. as a child, i remember having nightmares about showing up to school naked and being laughed at, and apparently this is a common dream for kids in our society. if a child, for whatever reason, DOES accidentaly wet his pants in school, for example, and the teacher pulls down his/her pants in front of everyone, that child is likely to experience strong emotions of shame, embarassment, etc.
yet is there anything intrinsically WRONG with being naked? did not our ancestors (in tropical climates) most likely spend all their time with no clothes? do you think they were ashamed at being naked? of course not. clearly, it is the social atmosphere that instills in the child a sense of shame at being naked.
this example can be extended to several other situations. clearly, it is the influence of social norms that dictate what a child should feel in any number of given situations. i would anticipate that in a society in which childhood sexuality is the norm, that children would not be ashamed or embarassed at all to engage in sexual play with each other or with adults. everthing depends on the context in which we are dealing with.
in spite of the above, let me reiterate that pedophilia WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF OUR SOCIETY is unacceptable. |
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| so then what you're saying is that when society "evolves" to become more accepting of all behaviours, pedophilia will be an acceptable thing?
i'm sorry, i'm usually all for open-mindedness but there comes a point where you have to take a stance, decide what you think is moral and realize that some things are just wrong.
there is no excuse, there is no debate, if you think that this kind of thing can be argued and twisted into a perspective thing.......
i dunno, any sort of defence to this kind of thing is absolutely disgusting. |
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| i don't know if any society in the future will accept childhood sexuality. i know that some have in the past.
however, if there ever does arise a society in which childhood sexuality is accepted, I beleive that it will be seen as natural and acceptable, and that no harm will be caused to the children. |
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| Hey Dan, send over your first born. I'll rape the shit out it with a smile knowing you are attempting to justify pedophilia in a twisted sociatal norm. |
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| my first born will kick the crap out of you |
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| i understand what poisened candy is saying but using an infinite arguement is just dodging the whole debate
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Bob: "fucking children's eye sockets is so wrong man"
Ted: "ya, but fucking children's eye sockets wouldn't be wrong if it was socially acceptable"
Bob: "But it hurts kids and makes them blind in one eye!"
Ted: "ya, but fucking kids in their orbital sockets and blinding them wouldn't bother them so much if everyone was doing it...I mean, all their friends would only have one eye, and adults wouldn't mind cuz they'd all be taking part. It could become a rite of passage or something....as long as everyone said it was ok and trained the kids to think it's normal"
Bob: "that's sick man"
Ted: "only because you've be taught that it's sick. You can train humans to accept anything if you raise them with the right beliefs"
...and fucking so on....that type of statement is just silly. It's true, if you train generations of people to believe something, they will accept it, defend it...blah blah blah
it doesn't make it right and most people will know it and even if they don't speak up, they will feel it
i pray that pedophilia never becomes socially acceptable.....i'd hate to have to slay those of you who "learn to open your minds and become an enlightened sexual teacher to the young, naive budding flowers of society" |
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| oh ya, PoiSoNeD CaNdY....i would like to know what your stance on this is now, in this society. No special magical scenarios....and no, it's not a 13 yr old Britney wannabe who's already active.
Do you believe that an adult fucking a child is ok?
Would you fuck a child?
What would you do if you saw an adult fucking a child?
.....and let's not (unless we really wanna get it on and have a fantastic discussion) bring in the "what if an adult has the mind of a child" aspect into this. Or a bunch of other discussion-twisters. |
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| ^finally...
some reason...
plain, simple: what do you think about it now?
without magical society changes
do you even have any opinions on anything? or do you just imgine mystical scenarios where things aren't as they seem.... OoOOooOOOOoooOOooOOOOOooooOo!!! |
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| ya hi.
do you people realize this is a 6 page thread dicscussing whether or not pedophilia is right or wrong?
that's pretty fucking in itself. |
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| .....
you mean "pretty fucking funny" |
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| oops, i meant "pretty fucked in itself"
ps- homo. |
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| tee hee...
you said homo |
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| so did you. |
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| Did someone say moho?
HI! |
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| its not a question of whether an adult fuking a child is ok, its a question of whether the child gives consent whihc is rather dubious to believe possible.
thats why theres laws...a 5 year old child wont have the same reasoning as an 18 year old individual, hindering its ability to pass an educated prognosis over the entire situation....
who in there right mind would believ that a kid unable to tie there shoe would be able to make such an life altering decision...despite todays societys nonchalant approach towards it, sex is something that shouldnt be imposed upon an individual unable to make his or her own decisions...
so there |
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| "in spite of the above, let me reiterate that pedophilia WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF OUR SOCIETY is unacceptable."
ontheroadagain, I think this makes my stance pretty clear. for the record, I have absolutely no intention or even desire to have any sexual relations with any child.
my point in arguing this thread has little to do with my views on pedophilia, and much more to do with my view that there are no absolute rights and wrongs.
and as for your example about fucking someone through the eye, I can relate to you an example that IS PRACTISED in several societies that is almost as extreme: female genital mutilation.
In several African societies, teengage girls have their clitoris cut off without anasthetic. At the minimum, the girl will experience intense pain and loss of sexual pleasure, at the worst the girl will bleed to death (its happened several times). Yet, for the people in that society, cutting off a girl's clitoris is RIGHT, and to not have it removed is WRONG.
and girls, as we speak, continue to voluntarilly go through this procedure because even THEY beleive it is the right thing to do. |
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| poisoned, i understand your view completely...it's just that it deals with pre-set boundries (context) while I'm talking about here and now, not in a society where it's already accepted.
Your example of genital mutilation just shows that we can train humans to accept things....it doesn't make it right. Ask all of those "willing" girls if they enjoy it....also, find out what the alternative is. Maybe they are choosing the path of least resistance.
For the record, i believe that male genital mutilation is also wrong, luckily it usually happens as a baby (although i say you never forget that shit) and it's not a bundle of nerves like a clit.
sometimes when shit happens, you can feel the universe cry...some things are absolutely wrong |
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| to put it simply, the fact that child sex can cause irevocable psychological damage/trauma to a child, and impede them from properly functioning in society and life, is cause enough to label child sex as wrong - whihc is said completely without being swayed by societys views on the subject.
any form of harm inflicted upon another human being is wrong regardless the circumstances - be it physical or psychological. its an tacit understanding that all human beings..no even all animals live by...not to harm one another.
unless its for territorial purposes, protection of young etc..you catch my drift...
therefore, child sex is wrong, despite what u may think..for i just proved it there...ahahahhaha |
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| hayley's smart
listen to her
wow woman- you got the gift of words!
brains... |
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