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To All Americans Living In Canada
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 8:40pm
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yeah this is lame....I mean, I think Am I Death? should be happy to see Americans trying to make it better with legitimate reasons....what does he want? For The Vibe Monkey to defend Bush? U can't blame every single American because their president is a retard. What if Chretien made a really stupid thing along the same lines as Bush. Should the worl hate every single Canadian as a result of that? That's kinda prejudice, don't you think?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» little_sarah replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 8:47pm
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my boyfriend's an american living in canada
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_President replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 10:07pm
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tell him to contact me if he is interested in becoming a register voting democrat

montrealdemocrats@videotron.ca
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 11:14pm
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i'm pretty sure if he's american he's already registered..

my dad votes..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 5:23am
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see
the problem is
Majority of americans SUPPORT Bush.

It would be a lot different if there wasn't such a strong support for him.

but since majority of americans are naive, they'll believe anything that Bush throws at them, like these weapons of mass destruction, that their country is democractic, that Saudi Arabia had something to do with 9/11, that Israel treats the palestinians almost as bad as Hitler treated the jews.

But you don't do you? Sure, 1 in 10 americans will agree with me, and power to them for standing up and realizing what is at stake here. But that other 9 in 10 are ignorant.

If you want to see HOW americans become this ignorant, you only need to look at high school marks from across the world. Tell me what you see coming out of america compared to the rest of the world?

Or, for an even more outrageous look, just download scenes from "Talking to Americans", hosted by Rick Mercier (This Hour Has 22 Minutes).

Lets face, its a world wide known fact that americans, FOR THE MOST PART, are ignorant. The proof is all there for everyone to see. Just compare Bush's over all rating to Blair's, its comparing one population's idea of the war to another, and you'll notice a remarkable difference.

But let me make myself perfectly clear. There are exceptions to every rule. Not ALL americans are like this, just as not ALL canadians are informed. But countries are nothing more than communities, and its the majority of that community that gives off the image of that community. Never forget that...

btw
Neoform
I was trying to educate you, I threw every fact, every example I could think of, you just chose to be an ass and say that it was all garbage. So I gave up and faced facts, you'll never understand and thus never succeed in the field.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 5:33am
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*clap clap* bravo
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 11:36am
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"see
the problem is
Majority of americans SUPPORT Bush."

how the hell do you know that? did you ask every american? i haven't seen any conclusive polls saying that at all. Gore was the majority vote winner anyway.

"but since majority of americans are naive,"

yeah, they sure are, unlike you.. ? making
comments like that just show your arrogance.

"they'll believe anything that Bush throws at them, like these weapons of mass destruction, that their country is democractic, that Saudi Arabia had something to do with 9/11, that Israel treats the palestinians almost as bad as Hitler treated the jews."

you under estimate the power of propaganda. hey look how well michael moore convinced everyone that he was right.. guess what, he did a LOT of creative editing. His movies are completely biased and bad documentaries because of it.

"But you don't do you? Sure, 1 in 10 americans will agree with me, and power to them for standing up and realizing what is at stake here. But that other 9 in 10 are ignorant."

I love these facts.. did you know 20% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

"If you want to see HOW americans become this ignorant, you only need to look at high school marks from across the world. Tell me what you see coming out of america compared to the rest of the world?"

yeah, that's why the US has some of the best Universities in the world. Hey, can you tell my why Einstein moved to the US? Why not england, or australia..?

"Or, for an even more outrageous look, just download scenes from "Talking to Americans", hosted by Rick Mercier (This Hour Has 22 Minutes)."

What do you think would happen if some guy from iceland came over and started doing the same thing asking questions about iceland to canadians? or how bout alaska.. you think you're such hot stuff, who's the current president of iceland? does iceland have provinces, or states? Just cause we're relatively close on the globe doesn't mean we know everything about them.. same goes for americans. Go to texas, i bet they wont even know what canada is, and why should they? They live a lot closer to mexico, and they prolly know a lot about mexico.

"Lets face, its a world wide known fact that americans, FOR THE MOST PART, are ignorant. The proof is all there for everyone to see. Just compare Bush's over all rating to Blair's, its comparing one population's idea of the war to another, and you'll notice a remarkable difference."

yes, and you are ignorrant as well, all the evidence is above.

"But let me make myself perfectly clear. There are exceptions to every rule. Not ALL americans are like this, just as not ALL canadians are informed. But countries are nothing more than communities, and its the majority of that community that gives off the image of that community. Never forget that..."

yes, canada MUST be the best country in the world. no question, right? tell me, how many countries have you been to? can you really say we're so much better then the US? i've been to about 24 different states in the US, i like it a lot. Sure there are people i don't like there, but the US is given a very bad rap due to their political power.

if it wasn't for the fact that they have such a powerfull military i can tell you righ now, the UN would have voted the US the most desirable country to live in, not canada.

"btw
Neoform
I was trying to educate you, I threw every fact, every example I could think of, you just chose to be an ass and say that it was all garbage. So I gave up and faced facts, you'll never understand and thus never succeed in the field."

yes, i was the ass, i really should appologize huh?

see here's the thing, you didn't give ANY conclusive facts, you tell me things like it's faster.. but ... where did you come up with this fact? you tell me it's more efficient.. again, where?

OOP is all about recycling code, right? well hey, if i always want efficiency, then that means using OLD code, old code is NEVER up to current standard s the way you want it.. so that means you'll always have to recode everything and never use any of the OLd stuff, which means YOU cannot seem to graps OOP. I have a much better understanding of it then you it seems.

btw, you should become a fortune teller and give up your day job of doing nothing, you can predict i will fail in my feild.. when you don't even have a field. I know i'm actually going somewhere, cause i can actually make things, you can't. it's a real shame.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» little_sarah replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 12:09pm
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ian wins.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fukt replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 12:26pm
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fuck politics.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_President replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 1:30pm
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"see the problem is Majority of americans SUPPORT Bush."

Bush's current approval rating is 52% accordinbg to the same polls that you would use to compare Blair's approval rating.

"but since majority of americans are naive, they'll believe anything that Bush throws at them, like these weapons of mass destruction, that their country is democractic, that Saudi Arabia had something to do with 9/11, that Israel treats the palestinians almost as bad as Hitler treated the jews."

I garauntee you 90%(or more) of Canadians would believe Cretian if he should proven intellegence (fabricated or not) that there was a terrorist threat to Canada.

"If you want to see HOW americans become this ignorant, you only need to look at high school marks from across the world. Tell me what you see coming out of america compared to the rest of the world?"

Yes the current American education system in the US is not to the standard it should be but I don't see how this makes everyone (or 90% of American's) ignorant about the world. The US still has a much better education system then any country in the middle eas, most of Asia and the majority of all countries in the world.

"Or, for an even more outrageous look, just download scenes from "Talking to Americans", hosted by Rick Mercier (This Hour Has 22 Minutes)."

Are you kidding me? You can't use political satire as proof of the American veiw. How many Americans do you think they interviewd in total? I bet the clips they showed were only 1/100th of those they interviewed.

"Lets face, its a world wide known fact that americans, FOR THE MOST PART, are ignorant. The proof is all there for everyone to see."

This is not a fact. All the proof you have shown so far is based on invalid arguements and TV shows. Wow.

"Just compare Bush's over all rating to Blair's, its comparing one population's idea of the war to another, and you'll notice a remarkable difference."

Big difference is that the UK was not attacked by terrorists and they are not as fearful of future attacks.

"But countries are nothing more than communities, and its the majority of that community that gives off the image of that community. Never forget that..."

The only thing that you have made clear is how ignorant you are. Countries are just communities. Communities are just groups of people. People are just humans. No matter how ignorant one may be, to say you hate them because they fall into a specific community of people is racist.

All Americans go back to america. All black people go back to africa. French go back to france.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 3:03pm
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yes
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 5:28pm
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Let me present you to "arguing with Alex 101"

Today, Slither, the snake, will be playing Alex, and Boy On A Stick, the boy on a stick, will represent everyone on the face of the earth excluding Alex.

Pay close attention now...


Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 5:36pm
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I agree with Ian but I'm doubting that if it wasn't for the fact that they have such a powerfull military i can tell you righ now, the UN would have voted the US the most desirable country to live in, not Canada. I can't believe it all came down to the military....what about social advantages, like health care and so on?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_President replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 6:51pm
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Canada is definatly a better place to live then the United States for many reasons.

However, both are still both wonderful places to live.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 8:31pm
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you're a wonderful place.......ok sorry, this thread is supposed to be serious.:lol
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 8:42pm
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"see
the problem is
Majority of americans SUPPORT Bush."

how the hell do you know that? did you ask every american? i haven't seen any conclusive polls saying that at all. Gore was the majority vote winner anyway.


Gore won majority vote, but america is democratic, and current polls show 70% support for Bush.

--

I stand corrected, its at 50%. This might actually be a good sign...


"but since majority of americans are naive,"

yeah, they sure are, unlike you.. ? making
comments like that just show your arrogance.


You just have to look at the strong support for war to realize this.


"they'll believe anything that Bush throws at them, like these weapons of mass destruction, that their country is democractic, that Saudi Arabia had something to do with 9/11, that Israel treats the palestinians almost as bad as Hitler treated the jews."

you under estimate the power of propaganda. hey look how well michael moore convinced everyone that he was right.. guess what, he did a LOT of creative editing. His movies are completely biased and bad documentaries because of it.


The power of propaganda works when people refuse to look at the other side. Thats called ignorance.


"If you want to see HOW americans become this ignorant, you only need to look at high school marks from across the world. Tell me what you see coming out of america compared to the rest of the world?"

yeah, that's why the US has some of the best Universities in the world. Hey, can you tell my why Einstein moved to the US? Why not england, or australia..?


Maybe because Europe was in a crisis? Besides, who asked about universities. I'm talking about secondary education, not POST secondary education.


"Or, for an even more outrageous look, just download scenes from "Talking to Americans", hosted by Rick Mercier (This Hour Has 22 Minutes)."

What do you think would happen if some guy from iceland came over and started doing the same thing asking questions about iceland to canadians? or how bout alaska.. you think you're such hot stuff, who's the current president of iceland? does iceland have provinces, or states? Just cause we're relatively close on the globe doesn't mean we know everything about them.. same goes for americans. Go to texas, i bet they wont even know what canada is, and why should they? They live a lot closer to mexico, and they prolly know a lot about mexico.


I don't see canadians believing a reporter saying that a minute in Iceland is worth one minute and 30 seconds in Canada :)


"Lets face, its a world wide known fact that americans, FOR THE MOST PART, are ignorant. The proof is all there for everyone to see. Just compare Bush's over all rating to Blair's, its comparing one population's idea of the war to another, and you'll notice a remarkable difference."

yes, and you are ignorrant as well, all the evidence is above.


Goto [ www.google.com ] and do some research on the subject. You'll find plenty of SCIENTIFIC polls, studies, ect that will clearly support my case. I'm not here to do all the dirty work for you.

"But let me make myself perfectly clear. There are exceptions to every rule. Not ALL americans are like this, just as not ALL canadians are informed. But countries are nothing more than communities, and its the majority of that community that gives off the image of that community. Never forget that..."



yes, canada MUST be the best country in the world. no question, right? tell me, how many countries have you been to? can you really say we're so much better then the US? i've been to about 24 different states in the US, i like it a lot. Sure there are people i don't like there, but the US is given a very bad rap due to their political power.


Canada was pushed down because of SARS I believe. The US is given a very bad rep why? Not their power, their ABUSE of power and the support it recieves from its population to abuse that power.


if it wasn't for the fact that they have such a powerfull military i can tell you righ now, the UN would have voted the US the most desirable country to live in, not canada.


Having the strongest military force in the world doesn't make you a bad country. Its how you use that force. Besides, why would a country with a failing economy, under the threat of terrorism, alienated allies, and with a lot of people pissed off at them, be rated best country to live in in the world?

"btw
Neoform
I was trying to educate you, I threw every fact, every example I could think of, you just chose to be an ass and say that it was all garbage. So I gave up and faced facts, you'll never understand and thus never succeed in the field."

yes, i was the ass, i really should appologize huh?


see here's the thing, you didn't give ANY conclusive facts, you tell me things like it's faster.. but ... where did you come up with this fact? you tell me it's more efficient.. again, where?


I gave you tonnes of links to read, did you visit any of them? I pasted some code I wrote, did you read any of it?


OOP is all about recycling code, right? well hey, if i always want efficiency, then that means using OLD code, old code is NEVER up to current standard s the way you want it.. so that means you'll always have to recode everything and never use any of the OLd stuff, which means YOU cannot seem to graps OOP. I have a much better understanding of it then you it seems.


OOP is not about reusing old code, its about proper code management.


btw, you should become a fortune teller and give up your day job of doing nothing, you can predict i will fail in my feild.. when you don't even have a field. I know i'm actually going somewhere, cause i can actually make things, you can't. it's a real shame.


Wait, how do you figure I can't make anything? Have you seen what i've done? Probally not :)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 8:48pm
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how about you show us something you have done
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 9:02pm
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[ www.foonet.com ] - in two weeks, their web based server management software (re: CPanel/Plesk/Ensim) will be done. Do you really want to know what that consists of?
When they put it live, you can see a demo run of it.

[ www.pud.ca ] - that order form is mad sexy, works everywhere. I also did their content management system and client account management system and I'm moving to Toronto in four weeks to full time for that company.

[ www.digicanmc.com ] - made when I was first learning layered layouts instead of tabular layouts.

[ www.kosherfoodz.com ] - one of my first projects ever, so its understandable that it doesn't work as well as the above mentioned sites, but hey, making a fully functional resturant delivery system thats completely administered over the web with the ability to track drivers, fax receipts to resturants, ect ect ect, its not too shabby and its actually doing quite well.

And various other smaller projects for web applications used for administrative purposes which I obviously can't show you.

Once I get time, Psikon will be back up with much cleaner html and a new layout, and a generic publically available content management solution for small businesses.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fukt replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 9:08pm
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#1 - battle of the super nerds.

#2 - who cares!? fuck politics. fuck polls. fuck statistics... spend more time enriching your OWN life rather than focusing on others opinions. if you believe what u read on the internet and what the media feeds u then ur just ignorant. it is only one side of the truth.

theres the truth and then theres what the system wants you to think.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Sun Sep 28, 2003 @ 9:09pm
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Different media outlets feed you different information.
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