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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 3:38pm
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I'm all about love. Embrace me in your arms and lets be friends.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 3:38pm
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ok, but you gotta wipe that vicks off your face.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 3:40pm
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that aint vics baby.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ashtraygirl replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 5:12pm
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[ www. ]

and just to stay on topic...

while i'm not the biggest fan of "american values", saynig that all american should go back to the states reminds me of the feeling i get whenever i see "ENGLISH GO HOME" tagged on shit and thats not cool. its bordering on rascist actually.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ashtraygirl replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 5:37pm
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and just to stay on topic...

while i'm not the biggest fan of "american values", saynig that all american should go back to the states reminds me of the feeling i get whenever i see "ENGLISH GO HOME" tagged on shit and thats not cool. its bordering on rascist actually.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Suckballs_bebe replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 5:48pm
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I totally agree. Bush is a war mongrol. Who's to say that the next prime minister won't cooperate with his extreemist attitude and plunge us ALL into war? After all Jean Chretien's term does effectivly end in february and his replacement has admitted to supporting the U.S's action towards Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. I say empeech the bitch already because the next thing you know manifest destiny wont be a thing of the past and we'll all be talking with southern accents and living in trailor parks.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 6:49pm
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while i'm not the biggest fan of "american values", saynig that all american should go back to the states reminds me of the feeling i get whenever i see "ENGLISH GO HOME" tagged on shit and thats not cool. its bordering on rascist actually.


the difference is, we ARE home. The americans are NOT. :)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nordic_Avenger replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 6:52pm
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tl;dr
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_President replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 6:54pm
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"I will admit though, the US had three good presidents, Lincon, JFK, and Clinton. Lincoln for fighting slavery, JFK for scientific exploration, and Clinton for so very close coming to a middle east peace plan, and his excellent handling of the bosnia war.:

There were many other fantastic Presidents. Franklyn Rosevelt inherited the presidency during the worst economic crisis in history and helped the United States not only recover but BOOM. Jimmy Carter has done countless deeds in global and local charaties including being one of the primary members of Habitat for Hummanity. And there have been many others who have done great things.

"Sure, US based charity organizations help, but not the US government. The US government can't even help its own country, let alone another one at this point."

Where do you think these organizations get a majority of their funding from? Organizations such as the Red Cross get large amounts of funding from the government. The US also has peace keepers in many countries all over the world (esspecially in Africa) providing food and protection from viloent suppresive regiems.

"Can you think of any war in the past 63 years that the US fought for the good of the world (not including the bosnia war)"

You don't want to include WWII eh? How about the first Gulf War? Sure we had intrests in Oil but the truth of the matter the Iraq government was invading a soverign state that had no defense. And, how about you tell me what country has faught a un self-interested war in the past 63 years.

"Why do you think the US attacked Iraq and not North Korea"

I wish I could say. This most recent war in Iraq (and many other current events) is exactally what I am pleading for all Americans help with. The latest war in Iraq was led by a president who decieved his citinzary into believeing there was a clear and present danger. You cannot blame the the US people for believing their elected leader. If Jean Cretian told you that the Canadian government intellegence had absolute proof that the US was about to bomb Canada (as Bush claimed for Iraq), you would want someone to act and quick.

"From Iraq, the US can launch wars against the rest of the middle east and make the US look more popular to the arab people since the arab people never really liked Iraq anyways (but that backfired obviously)"

You are bang on it that regard. Iraq is an incredable strategic advantage. The reason it is all going to shit now is for three reasons.
A) people are beginnn the reasons behind the justification of the war were totally fabricated. Therfore support is diminishing (check out the polls on popular opinion of the war in april and then now...huge drop).
B) The bush administration went into the war way to quickly and without a proper plan for clean up and exit. Wesley Clark puts it best when he says simple, never gop to war without an exit plan.
C) Bush's unwillingness to cooperate with the UN and other allies is awful. The reason the current environment is so hostile is because instead of rebuilding, the Iraqi people are veiwing the occupation simply as that...a military occupation to strengthen the US.

Bottom line is Bush needs to be out. The United States is not as bad as all you believe it to be. Question everything you here and look at the other side of the arguement. I will not go as far to say that the US is anywhere close to perfect but what country (or person, or people) is?

Please do not hate ALL americans because they are americans. Infact please don't hate anyone at all. Hate is the most dangerous emotion in human nature. It accomplishes nothing.

Thats all I have to say for now
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nordic_Avenger replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 7:03pm
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Holy sh*t!

tl;dr
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_President replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 8:10pm
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holy shit?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 8:11pm
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wow...
like i said... its unfair to judge one-sidedly like alex has been doign...
while i agree mostly with what he says, i cant fully say that the US are a horrible people... the leaders at ssome point or another might have been, that is all...
the US HAS done SOME good for the world, even if not noticeable compared to all the harm it seems to be doing in the present..
im not going to sympathize with them for footing the bill on the reconstruction of IRak or anything... they brought that on themselves...
but i do believe that there are some good things that the US has done...
I just think that they havent understood that, there is no need for a world super power anymore.. there is no longer any EORLD evil.... sure, The British Empire, Russia and the US were all the rage during the cold war because of the nuclear, and thereby global, implications.... but Russia and the UK have gracefully bowed down, not because they lost power, but because there is no need for them (and because of communism in Russias case, which completely destroyed them)... the US has yet to realize that there is no world-threatening evil out there... and youre going to say terrorism... NO. terrorism, as has been branded violent anti-US acts, is not a world threat, but a US threat... brought on BECAUSE the US has failed to realize that world super powers are no longer neede....
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_President replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 8:20pm
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holy shit?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_President replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 12:49am
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I think Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeild should have to pay for the Iraq rebuilding out of his own pocket
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 2:22am
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"there is no need for a world super power anymore"

as nice as it would be to think, a world without police would end in anarchy.

think about what would happen if the police stopped patroling/answering 911 calls for your area.. how fast would crime become a big problem? People do whatever they want if there's no consequences, same goes for countries (since, they are after all run by those same people)..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 3:50am
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wow...
like i said... its unfair to judge one-sidedly like alex has been doign...
while i agree mostly with what he says, i cant fully say that the US are a horrible people... the leaders at ssome point or another might have been, that is all...
the US HAS done SOME good for the world, even if not noticeable compared to all the harm it seems to be doing in the present..
im not going to sympathize with them for footing the bill on the reconstruction of IRak or anything... they brought that on themselves...
but i do believe that there are some good things that the US has done...
I just think that they havent understood that, there is no need for a world super power anymore.. there is no longer any EORLD evil.... sure, The British Empire, Russia and the US were all the rage during the cold war because of the nuclear, and thereby global, implications.... but Russia and the UK have gracefully bowed down, not because they lost power, but because there is no need for them (and because of communism in Russias case, which completely destroyed them)... the US has yet to realize that there is no world-threatening evil out there... and youre going to say terrorism... NO. terrorism, as has been branded violent anti-US acts, is not a world threat, but a US threat... brought on BECAUSE the US has failed to realize that world super powers are no longer neede....


90% of all americans will tell you the USA IS the world. the rest doesn't count. Which is just another reason in a list of many of why I don't like americans in general. Just look at the "Javascript Help" thread and look at neoform's responses. I don't mean to pick, but its a typical american attitude. Refuse to look at facts and when they are shoved in your face, discredit them by whatever means necessary.

I hate 90% of americans. The other 10% are the type of americans who actually learn something.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 4:12am
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I have a dual-canada UK citizenship, I guesse I have the typical "british" attitude then (even though my family is from scotland!)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 8:48am
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i have a dual canada-EUROPE citizenship mofos!!
oh yeah...
just thought id point that out
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 11:18am
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"90% of all americans will tell you the USA IS the world"

any bets you've never even been to the US?

Javascript help just shows what an ass you are, and nothing else.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_President replied on Sat Sep 27, 2003 @ 12:26pm
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"90% of all americans will tell you the USA IS the world"

That is ignorant statement. HAve you asked 90% of Americans if they think they are the world?

It is this uniformaed attitude that makes up the majority of people with anti american attitudes. I have met very few people who have answered the question why do i hate america with any valid reasons.
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