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Plur - What Does It Mean To You?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Max_x2 replied on Thu Sep 22, 2011 @ 7:33pm
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» KounteSs replied on Thu Sep 22, 2011 @ 10:32pm
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Max_x2 replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 2:26am
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Originally Posted By KOUNTESS

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Ouff Kountess... C'mon lolol!

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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» pencapchew replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 12:51pm
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Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD

Right, psytrance, AKA let's take a bunch of Indian religions, paint pictures of their gods in UV-reactive paints and take a ton of drugs and pretend we're spiritual while destroying our minds, bodies and hearing and being judgmental and hateful pricks to everyone that doesn't buy into the whole "I'm a hippy, I'm into nature and natural things" that we preach while eating chemicals, wearing tons of clothes made from synthetic fibers, listen to music made on computers being played back by CDJs that are loaded with computer components and that leave a ton of toxic byproduct when all their insides are made.


ummm, who is being judgemental and hateful here dude?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 12:56pm
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How 'bout we just not play the "who picked a fight first" lamegame?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» pencapchew replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 1:11pm
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right....the fact that psytrance scene is a more conscious scene in terms of the environment is invalid because we use electronic devices??
or is it that the psytrance scene has been successful for 10 plus years and some ppl cant get around that, what a stupid and ridiculous post im sorry
After wemf this year was a disgusting travesty, was basically a grabage dump.
After a psy festival its as if no one was there. What a bunch of hypocrites those goa hippies LOL
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 1:13pm
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Originally Posted By PENCAPCHEW

ummm, who is being judgemental and hateful here dude?


Have I ever pretended to be anything to the contrary? If I see something that's stupid and hypocritical, I call it out, I don't go under the false pretense of loving everyone and everything, but actually talking behind people's back and judging and hating on everyone in secret to those that are 'in the club'.

The whole psytrance spirituality hippy bullshit is just posturing, as well as pretty fucking insulting to the people who actually believe in all the religious memorabilia that's been re-purposed into day-glo trip-enhancers.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 1:17pm
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Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD

Have I ever pretended to be anything to the contrary? If I see something that's stupid and hypocritical, I call it out, I don't go under the false pretense of loving everyone and everything, but actually talking behind people's back and judging and hating on everyone in secret to those that are 'in the club'.

The whole psytrance spirituality hippy bullshit is just posturing, as well as pretty fucking insulting to the people who actually believe in all the religious memorabilia that's been re-purposed into day-glo trip-enhancers.


Well said, actually
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 1:41pm
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Well said, actually


... imho, i read that screwhead has a deeper and greater understandment of the mechanics governing those manifestations which are most insulting to "the people who believe in religious memorabilia"
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 1:43pm
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I just read that he doesn't care either way

(oi, you coming down sometime before the 1st? check for Sept. just went through on my end btw )
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Party_Girl replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 1:50pm
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Originally Posted By FISHEAD

P-edophiles
L-ove
U-nderage
R-avers


haha
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 3:34pm
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Originally Posted By PENCAPCHEW

or is it that the psytrance scene has been successful for 10 plus years and some ppl cant get around that

What does success have anything to do with a scene's mentality ?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 6:05pm
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everyone's got their opinion

i still love psytrance
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 6:25pm
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Originally Posted By KIRE

everyone's got their opinion

i still love psytrance


Thing is, you don't have to buy into the whole eastern-religion-western-philosphy-pseudo-environmentalsit-buddha-and-space-butterflies mentality to enjoy Psy music.

My favorite ppl in the Psy scene are the ones who aren't part of the aforementioned neo-hippie sub-culture.

To those who think that we're all haters for being aetheist techno-heads, realize that going to an event for the tunes and having LSD driven cultural-mish-mash shoved down your throat with the flyers, party descriptions, deco, and that guru-wannabe talking it up, is just irritating.

It's fine that Psy represents some sort of Zen peace tranciness, doesn't mean you always have to go the extra mile to force a 'greater mentality' onto everyone. (Gotta say though, it has been toned down recently, and that's highly appreciated).

PLUR is bullshit, but it does give us a broad idea of what raving is all about: peacefully having a good time, respecting eachother's musical choices, and being united under the large banner of the rave scene.

I miss the time when you would say Hello to anyone on the street wearing fat pants, just 'cause you knew they were fellow ravers. Now, it seems, that Raves are just n'importe quoi, a place to go, something to do, a night of music and that's all. Sad, but fuck, that's what all the scenes have become ... welcome to the future, where musical tastes are ephemeral and the sense of belonging is near gone. Good or bad? You decide.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 7:10pm
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Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN

Now, it seems, that Raves are just n'importe quoi, a place to go, something to do, a night of music and that's all. Sad, but fuck, that's what all the scenes have become ...


Except for psytrance... ;)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 7:13pm
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Originally Posted By DATABOY

Except for psytrance... ;)


haha xD ... if only that was as true as you'd like to believe ;)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 7:16pm
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I'v been going to psytrance party's for many years. It's not a belief, its an observation.

And it's not like kids can look to American or British or Canadian culture for any cues about psychedelics. The Indians and some central and south american cultures are light-years ahead of everyone when it comes to taking psychedelic drugs. And believe it or not, that is still a part of the psytrance scene
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 7:30pm
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That may be true, but it doesn't take away from the fact that alot of ppl go out to a Psy party just 'cause it's a party.

It's not a sign of the scene, it's a sign of the times ... you might be able to avoid it a bit by implementing a narrow metality based on specific values, but then that kills the open-mindedness.

Closing ranks and keeping that sense of 'belonging' to a scene by way of clothing style, eating habits, specific drug consumption, and pseudo-religion may or may not be a good thing ... like I said, it's for you to decide.

Example: I've been Punk for a long time, but I don't feel the need to wear the 'uniform', and sometimes fellow punks who don't know me might judge that I'm not punk enough for them, and that kinda sucks.

Why should I feel bad about sharing core principles and listening to punk-rock and sporting a 'hawk, without being decked out in a thousand patches and a leather jacket?

Why should I feel poorly judged by neo-hippies when I go to play out at a Psy event 'cause I don't wear sandals and do LSD during the night?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 8:09pm
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As I said, i'v been attending psy events for many years now, and i have never felt judged because im atheist, or dress differently from most of the crowd. I dont get how the psy symbolism equates to close mindedness. Most of the peoples in the scene are quite nice and generous and practically never preach. Besides, you see all sorts of peeps of all ages come together at psy events, so i dont get where the judgmental rap comes from.
But I have witnessed a lot of prejudice from peoples outside of the scene. It's too bad too cus its one thing to not like the music, but quite an other to blurt out blanket judgments about its patrons.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Sep 23, 2011 @ 10:44pm
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Originally Posted By DATABOY

As I said, i'v been attending psy events for many years now, and i have never felt judged because im atheist, or dress differently from most of the crowd. I dont get how the psy symbolism equates to close mindedness. Most of the peoples in the scene are quite nice and generous and practically never preach. Besides, you see all sorts of peeps of all ages come together at psy events, so i dont get where the judgmental rap comes from.
But I have witnessed a lot of prejudice from peoples outside of the scene. It's too bad too cus its one thing to not like the music, but quite an other to blurt out blanket judgments about its patrons.


Maybe I get that preachiness from what I see said n the 'net, or even on flyers, perhaps it's not so present in the actual events. If things have changed since some of the old Guru dicks aren't around much, then cool.

I do like the music, it's just that the Psy scene always comes across as 'you have to be one of us to understand the music' which is lame. Maybe you're too close to the scene, and things look different from the outside, know-what-I-mean? Or maybe it's just that the purist loud-mouths are the ones doing all the representing.

Anyway, I do see less and less of the neo-hippy aspect, and that's good, 'cause saying ppl are accepted and then having DJs and patrons go off about being in a trance - that no one else gets it - is getting old, and insulting.

I'm not trying to bash Psy ppl, but you have to admit that the aesthetic revolves around a fairly specific theme, and that automatically narrows the field. I've been going to Psy events for years too, I've made my own observations, and even then gotten into a few online arguments about the scene's 'image' ...

By the way, I see ppl of all ages at any given event, so there's nothing special there ;)
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