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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Wed Jul 29, 2009 @ 5:03pm |
 Coolness: 132310 | i usually go when i see a laptop flippin open in a party , and the person only gaze the screen.
or i keep my 2 cent , 5$ , 10$ 20$ 25$ 35$ or whatever they tried to dug out of my pocket. this is why i have more interest nowadays in the local hiphop scene, where we work the gear a little more towards the crowd. and they arent about to ditch the turntables any soon. like emminem said once : nobody listens to techno (or the ppl of that is) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Wed Jul 29, 2009 @ 5:09pm |
 Coolness: 130435 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
i usually go when i see a laptop flippin open in a party , and the person only gaze the screen. Which is why I can't use a laptop, I spend too much time staring at a computer screen already to go to a club and stare at another computer screen Just can't do it |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Wed Jul 29, 2009 @ 5:18pm |
 Coolness: 167260 | thnx for coming down from on high and reiterating my point blisss :P
(it's all in good fun, btw :D ) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Wed Jul 29, 2009 @ 5:30pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Wed Jul 29, 2009 @ 6:16pm |
 Coolness: 77425 | Wow, Lynzyn, you're a fucking TOOL. First uv all stop typing leik u r on yr blackberry and spell a few words correctly, secondly, get off your vinyl high-horse because it's not like production and mixing are exactly the same boat. To top it off you say laptops are easier to steal. This is a definite noob assessment because I've lost a lot more vinyl than I've ever lost laptops to theft.
Sorry. But you posted over 9000 fucking asinine comments on your unqualified opinion about DJing. The 90s are over there, ten years ago. Get over the vinyl worship thing, everybody has them now, everybody loves them, everybody finally has a way to find out what's what in their electronic scene. The rarity that made early vinyl a hot commodity only still works with collectors of these rarities. Otherwise vinyl editions of drum and bass, techno, electro, any well-established rave-culture styles are available by mail-order so now your selection is the priority. Get over this idea that laptops are easy to work with live. It's not just pushing buttons, and it's not automatic. It's extremely hard to do on the fly because of CPU lag on processing and the amount of fine tuning required for perfect synchronization, so yes, sometimes it's less flexible. And unfortunately the input devices on computers are a keyboard and a one-hand, one pointer mouse. This is something you can get around with devices like the Lemur or MIDI breakout boxes, but really, don't be "dence" [sic]. There is no magical sync button and even if there was it would be doing automatic beat detection which is an utter failure IMHO. It doesn't work that way. You actually have to beatmatch, even with that software. But you don't even have to, if you want to mix this is not the only way to do so. You also fail to consider experimental approaches. With vinyl you would have to have a hell of an internal metronome to be able to do any sort of additive meters in mixing, but since most people stick strictly to 4/4 for everything I guess this is a moot point. If you want to learn how to use Ableton (that's how it's spelled btw, try to remember that before randomly slamming keys like a monkey), you might want to RTFM. Or do some tutorials. It's not a fucking toy. The amount of work that goes into timestretching and granulization so that it is possible to beatmatch and stretch loops in this sort of program is colossal, but technology has not yet developed a musical ear. You can program stochastic musical work with a computer or synth but it will not have a groove, typically speaking, without the element of gesture added to it. Gesture is the key to good performance and is the so-called human element in music and in art in general. Tweaks, slides, scratches, effects, those are all gestures. And I sincerely hope you don't think that Ableton's effects are just there to flip on a filter sweep or phaser for a few bars. In that case you might want to give your Ableton license to someone who actually knows what to do with it. Live 8 is a fucking hardcore professional DAW, and if you use it for mixing it's probably because you write your own tracks. How many times have you played your own stuff on vinyl? Never? Thought so. Because the thing you end up hating about your own vinyl is that you can't tweak individual tracks any more. It can make for a more fluid set but you have no room for improvisation or for variation. When you've been DJing for a while you realize that vinyl is just a medium, and that it isn't necessarily more challenging or better per se than using a laptop with Serato or Traktor. It can be more fun, and it can be more impressive when you're showing off your crates, but it can be cumbersome to drag said crate, and the probability that you will damage vinyl or lose it is way higher than the probability that someone will take your rather-obvious laptop bag out the front door without anyone noticing. If you are not being paid enough for the gig to ensure these collections, why take the risk? If you don't really know what you're talking about, please don't front. You make it look like there's a DJ camp and a laptop camp and the two are at war. Just face it. The future is here, there are no flying cars, we didn't get to Mars after all, and this is the compromise. Vinyl is phasing out because THERE'S NONE LEFT. It's like saying we should cook with Atlantic salmon only because it's what everybody else does. THE RESOURCES ARE DEPLETING. These are all things you should think about and consider if you want to engage in lengthy discussions containing value judgments on technology. You could merit from a little schooling on this. Thank you for your patience. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Wed Jul 29, 2009 @ 6:27pm |
 Coolness: 103970 | glad my message wasn't lost on peril :D
but i r dence so..... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Wed Jul 29, 2009 @ 9:07pm |
| Coolness: 132310 | lol, i want to add this :
what is the easiest program from this list ? 1> REBIRTH latest 2> REASON 3/4 3> ABLETON LIVE 8 4> REAKTOR 5 5> RENOISE latest there arent all listed and there is an obvious reason for that , not because i dont know em all i want to provide a point. fuck it i wont let you guys think about it. see of all of them , there are some that have no vst, others cant even import sound (rebirth) . this shit is all good, computers are complex , and so are these programs when your clueless. but what is the point of a performance if its to gaze at some control all night long. ppl cant see, they get bored. and most of the time , the artists are so anal about their track bones that ,chances are , and given the chance , they wont let you look at it. i just think about the djs that hides their wax label so pppl cant figure it out. what i want to get at , is VINYL brought ppl together , LOTS OF HANDS one the same vinyl etc... that wont happen on computer, its secregation from the crowd, unless were talking about dj playback like tiesto. i hate laptop performance since i have seen rectable . |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 2:52am |
 Coolness: 94210 | Originally Posted By MASA
I think Gamos is just a bit pissed at the fact that he's being excluded from a thread he himself created :p lol. mayhaps. lol...yeah, ur right. I mean, derailing a thread is one thing. Derailing it to a topic in which the op can't relate, is just mean |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 5:17am |
 Coolness: 145915 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
you making yourselves and djing look bad. More PLUR please as if that is really possible |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 8:16am |
 Coolness: 69020 | Unqualified opinions who r u to say my opinions r unqualified they r mine and that's it u don't know shit........if u guys can't handle what i have to say then get the fuck out plain and simple, i am not on a vinyl high horse , i prefer playing it and i am working on the new age technology with my laptop....IT TAKES FUCKING TIME TO LEARN WHEN U R NOT SAVY ON TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!
LUKE U GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE because u think u know everything there is to know about djing and laptops and vinyl and all the jazz.....U DON'T KNOW SHIT everyone is fucking different GET USED TO IT FUCK..... Update » Turtle wrote on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 8:18am everyone is different man get used to it, we all have our opinions no one is bigger or better than anyone here so deal with it.... Update » Turtle wrote on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 8:23am anyway we r gonna go on and on about this insults will be thrown left and right and on and on it will go, i am stupid and don't know shit, then i will say u r stupid and don't know shit then other stuff will be said...So how about i say this have a nice day everyone!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 8:27am |
 Coolness: 222480 | This discussion is retarded..
everyone has there say on things.. Perso, if you can't do it with CDs / Vinyles, then I don't think you need to do it. "but but but, can you mix 230 tracks into a 60 minute set with CD's??" fuck no and thank GOD we can't .. i can't imagine it sounding good anyways.. and if you DID mix 230 tracks into a set using traktor, chances are you can also do it with CD's (or there would be some kinda auto-sync no??).. "Yeah, but can you layer tracks and hold mixes for 7 minutes with Viynles"??? probably not, cause pitch control's aren't perfect.. is the one on Serato perfect?? if yes, how come?? could it be easier with Serato ?? Bleh !!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 10:04am |
 Coolness: 159835 | A beautiful coastal scenery is displayed, the warm semi-salted sea breeze gently caressing your face as you hear the soothing waves washing against the sandy beaches, an infinite amount of crystals softly gleeming in the sun.
You spend hours making your way along the coast, feeling relaxed and content, far from the stress of everyday life... Seriously, is it important if you're using a rusted old bicycle or a Segway ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ONE.LAB.RAT replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 2:58pm |
 Coolness: 76970 | LukePeril this for you.
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 3:18pm |
| Coolness: 77425 | I dunno, but I'm sensing a high level of butthurt on this thread.
Get over it, I spin wax too, when it suits me. Different gigs for different methods. I guess I'm going to have to go hit my friend's record lathe over the next while to prove that I don't play favourites on this. Lynzyn, you're too easy to piss off. Go have a beer and walk it off. Srsly. Don't project your ignorance on me, I was very articulate. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 3:20pm |
| Coolness: 103970 | C'mon Luke, we all know you just clicked the auto post button, and didn't really write any of that on your own |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 3:23pm |
| Coolness: 77425 | This is true. I'm using RAVEWAVER PRO for Mac. It totally rules and can be yours for only three easy payments of $5.99. And it's made in Germany so you know it's quality. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 3:45pm |
| Coolness: 132310 | EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOU CAN BATTLE ON SERATO
anyhow id bet a million its impossible to run a decent conversation about teamwork in a gathering of socially deprived. only here , not in the real world. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 3:46pm |
| Coolness: 159835 | LukePeril : Nah thanks, I'll stick to my browser's torrent search box and hit "Auto Find, download and install pre-cracked version of software". |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 3:50pm |
| Coolness: 77425 | Aber scheiße! Well it's made by the same folks who make Ableton so you will never crack it und we will mock you with regular updates and sample packs of possible text. Get the "skethcy raver wünderkind" kit, including phrases such as "the since is dieing" and "2 es and 1 speed" as well as the all time favourite, the -saucifier, which will automatically put the word "sauce" on the end of your wordsauce. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Thu Jul 30, 2009 @ 4:25pm |
| Coolness: 159835 | Das haut rein ! Sadly enough, it wasn't sauced.
Now I'm wünderin : is there a RAVEWAVER PRO for Windoze though ? |
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